actually, the press is ignoring that most "pedophilia" by priests is using teenaged boys, not children, or that such behavior is common in the gay community.
But if his behavior was caused by "the disease of pedophilia," a condition that not only compelled him to fondle boys but erased his memory of those "diseased acts," how can it be just to punish him? The uncertainty introduced by viewing sexual abuse as the symptom of a disease played an important role in the church’s failure to protect congregants from priests like Geoghan. In a May 8 deposition, Cardinal Law was asked how he approached molestation charges. "I viewed this as a pathology, as a psychological pathology, as an illness," he said. "Obviously, I viewed it as something that had a moral component. It was, objectively speaking, a gravely sinful act." The combination of these two irreconcilable views, medical and moral, was a recipe for inaction. ....
psychiatric diagnoses affect moral judgments. Fred Berlin, founder of the Johns Hopkins Sexual Disorders Clinic and a professor of psychiatry at the Johns Hopkins School of Medicine, declares: "Some research suggests that some genetic and hormonal abnormalities may play a role [in pedophilia]....We now recognize that it’s not just a moral issue, and that nobody chooses to be sexually attracted to young people." Yet an action that affects other people is always, by definition, a moral issue, regardless of whether the actor chooses the proclivity to engage in it.
Berlin misleadingly talks about the involuntariness of being "sexually attracted to young people." The issue is not sexual attraction; it is sexual action. ...
In July 1998 Temple University psychologist Bruce Rind and two colleagues published their research on pedophilia in the Psychological Bulletin, a journal of the American Psychological Association. The authors concluded that the deleterious effects on a child of sexual relations with an adult "were neither pervasive nor typically intense." They recommended that a child’s "willing encounter with positive reactions" be called "adult-child sex" instead of "abuse." Not surprisingly, this conclusion created a furor, which led to a retraction and apology. Raymond Fowler, chief executive officer of the American Psychological Association, acknowledged that the journal’s editors should have evaluated "the article based on its potential for misinforming the public policy process, but failed to do so." Apparently no one noticed that, according to the fourth edition of the American Psychiatric Association’s Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM-IV, published in 1994), a person meets the criteria for pedophilia only if his "fantasies, sexual urges, or behaviors cause clinically significant distress or impairment in social, occupational, or other important areas of functioning." In short, pedophilia is a mental illness only if the actor is distressed by his actions. Psychiatrists had likewise classified homosexuality as a disease if the individual was dissatisfied with his sexual orientation ("ego-dystonic homosexuality"), but not if he was satisfied with it ("ego-syntonic homosexuality"). Bending to the wind, the American Psychiatric Association later backtracked. In DSM-IV-TR, published in 2000, the requirement of "clinically significant distress or impairment" was omitted from the criteria for pedophilia.Mental health professionals are not the only "progressives" eager to legitimize adult-child sex by portraying opposition to it as old-fashioned antisexual prejudice. In a 1999 article, Harris Mirkin, a professor of political science at the University of Missouri-Kansas City, stated that "children are the last bastion of the old sexual morality." As summarized by The New York Times, he argued that "the notion of the innocent child was a social construct, that all intergenerational sex should not be lumped into one ugly pile and that the panic over pedophilia fit a pattern of public response to female sexuality and homosexuality, both of which were once considered deviant." Mirkin cited precedents such as Greek pederasty. "Though Americans consider intergenerational sex to be evil," he wrote, "it has been permissible or obligatory in many cultures and periods of history." He told the Times: "I don’t think it’s something where we should just clamp our heads in horror....
Scientists Trace Aberrant Sexuality
By JANE E. BRODY
Published: January 23, 1990
BALTIMORE— THE derailed sexuality of child molesters, exhibitionists, rapists and deviant murderers, as well as others with peculiar erotic interests that are less repugnant, has its roots in early childhood when the first links between love and sex are forged, a pioneering researcher has demonstrated.
The researcher, Dr. John Money, has traced the development of sexual perversions in scores of people and is the first to track their development from childhood origins to adult expression. He has coined the word lovemap to represent the seemingly indelible brain traces that ultimately help determine what arouses people sexually and enables them to fall in love...
Dr. Money's theories, which encompass biological heritage, social learning and early psychological and physical trauma, in effect represent a synthesis of the various prevailing beliefs.
In preliminary treatment efforts, Dr. Money and other researchers have used progestins, which are synthetic forms of the hormone progesterone, and related drugs to curb the sexual compulsions of hundreds of paraphilic patients. The drugs are part of a growing family of compounds that partly block the action of the male sex hormones.
Dr. Money emphasized that drug treatment is not a cure for paraphilia, nor is it a form of chemical castration. But when coupled with extensive counseling and behavioral restructuring, progesterone seems to reduce the urgency of the paraphilia and to allow more normal sexual fantasies and activities to be expressed and enjoyed, therapists have reported. After a time, Dr. Money is finding, patients may be able to reduce or eliminate the medication without reverting to their paraphilic tendencies. ...
a 2003 article
In the early to mid-20th century, two psychologies were prominent in the development of behaviorial approaches, those of John B. Watson and Alfred Kinsey. Behavior therapy for a variety of problems emerged in the 1950s and soon found application to deviant sexuality. The development of penile plethysmography helped to focus interest on deviant sexual preference and behavior. While nonbehavioral approaches to sexual offenders paralleled these developments, a combination of behavioral and cognitive behavioral treatments began to emerge in the late 1960s which ultimately developed into the approaches more commonly seen today.
1990 NYTimes article:
an article on Dr. John Money
from a gaylib webpage:
Source: Psychology Today ; May 88
A Risqilly BBS reprint (203-644-4236)
a cheery article on his "pioneering " therapy.
You want to know why it's so hard to get money for sex research?" He brings out a book with pictures of young monkeys having sexual intercourse and of young children similarly engaged. "You have just become a criminal by looking at those pictures of children." In this kind of moral atmosphere it is difficult to get a levelheaded look at sex. "It's sort of like physics before the atomic age." The sexual revolution of the '60's, he says, was really more of a "reformation". But now we are already in the counterreformation."
In a field as small as his, Money has chalked up many firsts. He cofounded the Gender Identity Clinic at Hopkins and designed the first curriculum in sexual medicine for medical students. In 1965, he collaborated with the surgeon on the first sex-change operation at the university. He introduced the hypothesis (now widely accepted) that androgen is the libido hormone for both sexes. He was a pioneer in hormonal treatment to improve self- control of sex offenders and was the first to explore what he calls "behavioral cytogenetics" .. the psychological concomitants of sex chromosome disorders.
(this type of nonsense was why the torturer/murderer of Pinay nurses in Chicago got away with being charged with second degree murder?)
...Money likes to talk about tribes in East Melanesia and New Guinea as illustrative of the amazing and still little-understood plasticity of the sexual response. It seems that in one village in East Melanesia all boys go through a period of exclusively homosexual activity as part of their passage into manhood, from the age of 9 to 19. After that, they get married and become heterosexual. One tribe in New Guinea has a similar set-up. "They have their own folk medical story, which is that a child needs it's mother's milk to thrive when it's born, and then, to become a man and a head-hunting warrior he has to have a man's milk." So part of the ritual of going through puberty is to solicit semen from other young men. Says Money: "It's tremendously important that any theory of how people become heterosexual or homosexual or bisexual be able to account for this phenomenon of cultural bisexuality."
Money often compares modern attitudes unfavorably with those of primitive cultures. He attributes most pathological sexual behavior to society's "antisexual" attitudes. One of the most damaging of these, in his opinion, is the belief that "childhood erotic rehearsal" is bad. When monkeys' juvenile sex play is prevented, they do not grow into normal heterosexuals. The same is true of other primates.
Although Money has often written about the need for a "sexual democracy" characterized by a realistic and unbiased approach to sexual problems, he won't say just how much taboo is a good idea. He muses over possible benefits: "What if we did what some of the tribal peoples do and at least felt good about kids discovering their sexuality?" But asked if it would be a good idea to encourage unbridled sexual play among children, he finally says: "No. Because I don't think our society would know how to do it yet. They would all fight each other." ...
there is abundant testimony to his stature as a scientist ... including 25 years of continuous funding from the National Institute of Child Health and Human Development, and the American Psychological Association's 1985 Distinguished Scientific Award for the Applications of Psychology. Says Money serenely, "I don't mind being wrong a few times because I'm right most of the time."
on one of Money's projects that went wrong and destroyed those who belived him that they could raise their boy as a girl without any problems...
Dr. Judith Reisman
is even more blunt: The bishops should sue their "experts".
The paper written by Reisman and others, submitted to a select group of bishops, is titled, "Reliance of the Catholic Church on Sexuality Advisors Whose Moral Foundation Differs Markedly from that of the Church."
It informs the bishops that "Catholic institutions have long naively relied on sexuality professionals whose advice and counsel has been based on fraudulent science that had as its sole purpose the sweeping aside of the traditional generative view of American -- indeed Catholic -- morality.
link to that paper LINK
2002 editorial from the (rightwing) WashingtonTimes:
you found the clergy sex abuse scandal shocking, prepare for another jolt: the Catholic bishops are getting their "expert" advice on pedophilia from people who have covered up or even defended sex between men and children.
The bishops recently chose Dr. Paul McHugh, former chairman of the Department of Psychiatry and Behavioral Sciences at John Hopkins University School of Medicine, as chief behavioral scientist for their new clergy sex crimes review board. Yet Dr. McHugh once said Johns Hopkins' Sexual Disorders Clinic, which treats molesters, was justified in concealing multiple incidents of child rape and fondling to police, despite a state law requiring staffers to report them.
"We did what we thought was appropriate," said Dr. McHugh, then director of Hopkins' Department of Psychiatry and Behavioral Sciences, which oversaw the sex clinic. He agreed with his subordinate, clinic head Fred Berlin, who broke the then-new child sexual abuse law on the grounds that it might keep child molesters from seeking treatment.
Dr. Berlin admitted he had covered for the sex criminals, angering legislators, child-advocacy groups and state officials. But his actions were not surprising, because "at least eight men have been convicted of sexually abusing Maryland children while under [Dr. Berlins] treatment there," according to the March 23, 1988, issue of the Capital. Despite a 1990 Government Accounting Office study that found no therapy program that stopped sex offenders...
Dr. Money once gave an interview to PAIDIKA the Journal of Paedophilia, an "academic" publication that advocates adult sex with children alongside ads for the North American Man-Boy Love Association (NAMBLA) and other pro-pedophilia groups. He told PAIDIKA that a "relationship" that is "totally mutual" between a boy of 10 or 11 and an adult male "would not [be] pathological in any way."
(I should note that treating offenders was common in the 1980's, and I remember when the "incest" craze hit, that Newsweek defended treatment for these men, since jailing them would destroy the family and expose the men to being abused by other prisoners).
One of the problems is that most stuff on the internet was written after 1990, or is posted on websites that have a bias (often an "ain't it awful" bias).
But even in 1990, you can find articles.
From the Baltimore Sun
October 31, 1991|By John Rivera
A Kentucky physician who was ordered to get out of town as a condition of probation for sex offenses is about to receive the boot from Maryland, where he was seeking psychiatric treatment.
Maryland correctional officials blamed budget cutbacks and the lack of personnel for supervision in announcing their intention to block the efforts of Dr. Fred Rainey to live in the Baltimore area and obtain treatment at the Johns Hopkins sexual disorders clinic.
Rainey, 61, arrived in Maryland last week and is living in Owings Mills, said a spokesman for the Department of Public Safety and Correctional Services, Leonard S. Sipes Jr., who announced the state's decision to reject the sex offender...
heck, you even read defense of not jailing offenders in this 1999 paper from the Journal of the American academy of psychiatry and Law at the Emory Univeristy website
Fred S. Berlin MD PhD, Associate Professor of Psychiatry at Johns Hopkins, entitled his superb talk "Sex Offenders: Criminals or Patients?" He explained that similar behaviors can occur for different reasons, sometimes related to psychiatric disorder and sometimes not. For example, sex offenders may or may not be paraphiles. Assessment for possible sex offender status must address four issues: behavior, partner(s), intensity, and attitude.
Regarding behavior, some is strictly limited to fantasy, some fantasy being quite intense as in transvestitic fetishism and exhibitionism. The other end of the behavior gamut can be seen as that of sadism and masochism. Partners cover a wide range, from the more bizarre such as animals or corpses, to children, including the problem represented by the drunken father coming home and raping his attractive and sexually mature daughter of 13 or 14.
The issue of intensity is in some legal flux, as we see Internet technology transforming behavior that might be experienced as quietly private into a federal crime with a mandatory jail sentence. Assessing attitude involves distinguishing the ego-syntonic offenders from the more tortured individuals who lose the struggle for control. Similarly, offenders may be cruel or kind, conscientious or careless, and may have other personality variations that may or may not constitute an Axis II diagnosis and can often be erroneously confused with sex-related problems.
Etiology was the speaker’s next area, one whose progress is impaired by stigma. Yet it is still a good question to ask: why are most of us attracted sexually to age-congruent humans of their opposite gender, but some to children of their same gender? It is clearly not a volitional choice, any more than one can choose to be schizophrenic. Being a victim of sexual abuse has been considered a risk factor, since any group of paraphiles will predominantly report it; yet most who are sexually abused grow up with normal arousal. (Just as most smokers do not contract squamous cell carcinoma of the lung, while most victims of this disease turn out to have been heavy smokers). Sex is biological, so it makes sense to expect a biological cause here, but so far there is only preliminary evidence.
Treatment came next in Dr. Berlin’s talk, beginning with the dissonance between the obvious inefficaciousness of the volitional approach ("just say no") and the law’s requirement assuming that all can conform. The evidence is strong that people cannot always conform, otherwise obesity would vanish as its victims all took up just eating a little less each day. This is a familiar point dating back to the field’s earliest investigators and leading to such infelicitous terms as "sexual addiction." Because it feels good, it is hard to stop, and the craving returns recurrently as often as it is satiated.
Despite this reality, four kinds of treatment can be mentioned for paraphilic disorders (leaving comorbid Axis II problems aside). Though it may once have held sway, not many now see insight-oriented individual psychotherapy as the treatment of choice. Behavior therapy based on the reconditioning approach can alter laboratory measurements of attraction patterns, but there is major difficulty transferring the results from the treatment setting to the real world. Treatment using aversion is an abysmal failure. Behavior therapy based on the cognitive approach can be helpful, said the speaker, particularly for the problem of craving, as the Betty Ford Clinic’s well regarded experience demonstrates. This includes group treatment and probably works because it so directly confronts the denial and rationalization that sustain the disorder. This of course assumes that the individual is serious enough to get involved in open and honest dialogue. Relapse prevention also comes under this heading, identifying and implementing the needed changes in lifestyle. There was not time for detailed discussion of the biological modalities, surgery and medication, except to point out that so far these cannot change one’s orientation, but are helpful in reducing the intensity of the drive.
(none of this is about gays attracted to pubescent boys, which was the majority of those priest "pedophile" cases, and which if not done by a priest would be considered normal behavior...nor does it include men who seduce their girlfriend's 13 year old girl, something I have run into a lot more (being a female doc in a rural area, I was asked to see a lot of these girls).
Ironically, I saw a lot of women who reported the abuse, only to have the mom punish her for lying, or for trying to steal away the boyfriend.
I even know of one case where the father rapist plea bargained (To save his daughter from testifying) and after he got out, and the girl got pregnant, her relatives sent her to live with the father to have the baby (the background was that the girl's mom was seriously ill).
And the father was dating a single social worker who had five foster kids...when we informed the social worker, she was shocked, but didn't stop dating the SOB.
but back to the Emory pape
Sexual predator laws
Finally, Laurence R Tancredi MD JD, Clinical Professor of Psychiatry at the New York University carried off the challenging anchor position with a systematic and compelling description of several policy implications of the sexual predator laws. He noted that such statutes were rather commonplace early in this century, until all but 11 states and the District of Columbia repealed them as civil rights gained recognition during the late 1970s. Then, as one bad case after another emerged, beginning with that of Earl Shriner in Washington in 1990, these statutes have been making a gradual comeback. They are based, he noted, on the existence of sexual psychopathy as an entity characterizing identifiable individuals who can be assessed for their risk of recidivism and treated to reduce it....
the only "Task force" from the American Psychiatric asso I can find it this paper.
from a book report on the report, via Psychiatry on line
ment of Psychiatry published a task force report that was instrumental in repealing the first generation of laws for civil commitment of sex offenders (1). The report's authors concluded that civil commitment of selected sex offenders to special treatment programs was not an effective way of handling such offenders. In 1990, after almost all of these special programs had been closed, Washington State passed the first of the second generation of laws on involuntary commitment of sexual offenders, against the active opposition of the American Psychiatric Association. This book has been written to explore APA's position on involuntary commitment and on the treatment of sex offenders in general...
Committee on Psychiatry and Law, Group for the Advancement of Psychiatry: Psychiatry and Sex Psychopath Legislation: The 30s to the 80s. New York, Group for the Advancement of Psychiatry, 1977
univ pa paper on sexual exploitation of children.
..mostly about commercial sex
not much data about male homosexuals...or data about same sex abuse versus abuse of women (which is of course most common).
from Law and Policy, University of Denver:
Employing the Mental Health System to Control Sex Offenders After Penal Incarceration*
RUDOLPH ALEXANDER JR. 1
In the 1930s, several states provided civil commitment in mental institutions for certain sex offenders. Civil commitment of these sex offenders abated after most states repealed their statutes in the 1960s. In the 1980s, however, these statutes returned, as outraged citizens deplored the offenses of repeated sex offenders. The author of this essay examines civil commitment statutes for sex offenders in Washington and Minnesota, two of the leading states in this area, as well as recent rulings from each state's Supreme Court upholding the constitutionality of these statutes. Particularly, the author focuses on the psychiatric or mental health discussions by the justices in the majority in both state rulings. Furthermore, the author criticizes the legislatively defined mental abnormality statutes that sanction these commitments, proposes use of the ordinary civil commitment statutes for individuals who are seriously mentally ill, and concludes that sex offenders who do not meet the criteria for traditional civil commitment should be handled by the criminal justice system.
annals of the NYAcademy of Science
Abstract: Fifteen states and the District of Columbia have laws for the special civil commitment of convicted sexual offenders who are about to be released from penal confinement and do not meet criteria for ordinary psychiatric civil commitment. As of summer 2002, nearly 2500 sexual offenders were hospitalized pursuant to one of these laws. An American Psychiatric Association task force declared that 'sexual predator commitment laws establish a non-medical definition of what purports to be a clinical condition without regard for scientific and clinical knowledge,' and thus 'distort the traditional meaning of civil commitment, misallocate psychiatric facilities and resources, and constitute an abuse of psychiatry.' It remains unclear how legislatures in states with these laws will respond to the U.S. Supreme Court's 2002 decision in Kansas v. Crane indicating that, absent a finding that an offender has 'serious difficulty controlling behavior' (not an explicit commitment criterion in any state), commitment is invalid.
Wikipedia has a page for the Group for the Advancement of Psychiatry.
again, thi UCSB website
doesn't have much about older men and pubescent boys, but it does have a letter addressed to pedophiles that you might want to read:\
and refers you here
for a counseler.
they also advise
Sexual Variability and Rights: AASECT recognizes the many varieties of sexuality including, but not limited to, the full range of sexual orientations, gender, transgender, and intersex positions, as well as erotic preferences and lifestyles. AASECT opposes the application of labels such as “normal” and “abnormal” to these variations in the healthy sexual expression of adults, and AASECT believes that all sexual and cultural minorities should enjoy sexual freedom, equal civil rights, and parity of social opportunities and privileges.
Sexual Health of Minors: AASECT advocates for the sexual health and rights of minors, for their protection as well as for their education, and AASECT therefore opposes all forces that would restrict or interfere with the entitlement of children and adolescents to develop in a sexually healthy manner that is age appropriate, and entirely free from adult exploitation.
Sexuality Healing and the Rights of Patients and Clients: AASECT recognizes the prevalence of sexual practices that are unhealthy, and unhappy, and acknowledges that many people struggle with sexual distress, disorder, and dysfunction. AASECT believes that there is an urgent need for sexual healing practices – that is, for biopsychosocial or ‘holistic’ care, for therapeutic intervention, and for personal growth opportunities — to be made available to all people, who are compromised in their pursuit of sexual health and happiness. AASECT further believes that opportunities for sexual healing should be accessible to every individual interested in furthering their capacity for erotic pleasure as well as for gratifying emotional relationships, and that such services should be provided in a manner that secures the client’s or patient’s privacy, confidentiality, and self-respect. AASECT therefore advocates for social, cultural, political, and economic change to expand, and extend the availability of, the highest quality of clinical services in sexual health. AASECT accepts as its mission the development of, and advancement of the highest standards for, sexuality healing practices, as well as its specific mission to train clinical professionals specializing in human sexuality. AASECT accepts as its mission the obligation to be the premier organization for advancing the practices of sexuality healing.
a lot of the priest "pedophilia" is at boys in puberty.
Yes there is a "superior/inferior" relationship (similar to physician/patient or psychiatrist /patient relationship).
But what is the age of consent?
AGE OF CONSENT AROUND THE WORLD
Argentina - 15
Bahamas - 16
Canada - 14
Colombia - male 14, female 12
India - 18
Indonesia - male 19, female 16
Hungary - 14
Peru - male 14, female 12
Tunisia - 20
UK - 16
US - federal age 16
In the Philippines it is 18...
Yet there are many who insist the age be lowered...and remember, it was Pres Clinton's Health advisor who said to give your 15 year old daughters a condom before she goes out on a date.
and in the UK, they are insisting to lower the age of consent
the UN is pushing the "rights of the child" including their right to sex as part of their sex education program, but no one wants to acknowledge that either, or that if it is a disaster in the US/UK for kids, it will be lethal in third world countries.
from the Encyclopedia of Children
, chapter on sexuality
(I don't know if this is a real scientific study, but it does have citations)..
In a 1973 study by Robert Sorensen, of those reporting homosexual experiences, 16 percent of the boys and 57 percent of the girls had their first homosexual experience between six and ten years of age. By the time they had reached their thirteenth birthday, 78 percent reported having at least one such experience. The number of boys exceeded the number of girls as they went into their teens. This difference in the teens was also found by Edward Laumann and his colleagues in the 1990s. Kinsey described homosexual play in females as mutual insertion of objects (including fingers) into the vagina, mouth–genital contact, rubbing, and close examination. In the male he defined it as exhibition of genitalia, manual manipulation of genitalia in groups or between two individuals, anal or oral contacts with genitalia, and urethral insertions.
In the 1980s and 1990s there was growing public acceptance for homosexuality as well as increasing peer acceptance of varying gender identities among adolescents. Many high schools, particularly in urban areas, have clubs for gays and lesbians, and the stigma of being different has lessened. Critics are concerned that such open toleration will encourage more individuals to become gay or lesbian. Studies show, however, that many preadolescents and adolescents who express nonconformity in gender identity do not continue to do so as adults. Others who conformed to traditional views in childhood broke away to identify themselves as homosexual or lesbian adults. There are still many unknowns in the complex study of the formation of gender identity.
Sorensen, Robert C. 1973. Adolescent Sexuality in Contemporary America. New York: World Publishing is the reference
again, this article denies gays abuse
I don't know of any gay abusers. If they are openly gay, they would be watched by parents, and open about it with kids.
The real problem is the sociopaths or the narcissists who use the "gay liberation" or psychological "get rid of inhibitions" to impose their will on kids. If they can't get those around them to believe the kid is lying, they then justify their behavior using sophisticated language of pop psychiatry.
When between 4 and 60 percent of boys report unwanted sexual contact as a child/teen with an adult, and 70 to 90 percent of those adults are men, then to ignore the gay component is absurd.
You have to recognize that the abusers are often "not all there": lack of insight that what they are doing is wrong, or unwillingness to admit they can't stop it.
They simply don't recognize what they are doing is wrong, and alas they easily manipulate those around them to "forgive" them...this includes wives, girlfriends, parishoners or bishops, or even the local cops.
but by not separating abused boys from abused girls, we don't know if the abuser was homosexually abusive and married to cover up his orientation and to get more ways to get in contact with kids (often stepkids or their kid's friends...).in the same way that they entered the priest hood or became teachers to enable them to work "under cover).
Also, the data from Emergency rooms ignores that many of the molested pubescent boys were non insertion, or didn't go to the emergency room because they didn't report the abuse.
finally, the majority of priest abuse is not child abuse, but that of pubescent boys in their care. Again, is this is different than raping a seven year old girl who is your step child.
Without clarification of what is going on, the confusion will continue, and despite the PC condemnation the average person will be angrier at the gay rights community, who are right now trying to impose the gay lifestyle as normal, than they will be against the Catholic church, especially when someone notices that most of these scandals are 30 years old.
In other words, If I were gay, I'd worry about the backlash.