New intercessor order from the IOTL?
I pulled up an old link from the sisters who left the Intercessors of the Lamb to discern what to do, and up popped a new order: Brides of the victorious Lamb.
Hmmm...
If I were them, I'd change the name: too protestant. But that's just me. And their dress changed to powder blue, which is an improvement.
Hopefully they have gotten rid of the cult like tendencies of the IOTL and will become a new contemplative group so badly needed in the US.
The website also has prayers and daily bible reading which could be helpful this Advent season.
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Wikipedia reports they started the new order in February.
the local newspaper's article on them is found HERE.
nine of the 48 who have left have started the new order...others left to become lay people, and a few stayed with Mother Nadine.
I have no idea what happened to Mother Nadine: She joined a Protestant intercessory prayer group called IHOP (no not the pancake house). And the last article I saw in the news about IHOP was a juicy murder case, but then it's a pretty large organization and may have attracted a few nut cases.
The IOTL website is still up and selling tapes for Christmas. Actually, the spiritual formation tapes from past converences are probably valuable if you want to learn about holiness, but I can't vouch for the latest ones.
The last conference noted on the website was advent (i.e. late fall) in 2011, so no new information there.
Mother Nadine is a bit sugary sweet for my taste. She tends, like many Charismatics, toward magical thinking, but unlike a lot of modern preachers stresses holiness, and not the idea that if God loves you, you will become rich.
Holy spirit interactive has an essay which is an example of her sugary writing style.
Her disobedience distresses me, and makes me suspect she is passive/aggressive (think "church lady from Saturday night live")...
The charismatic types often get into trouble because of the magical thinking stuff makes them think they are bigshots, but Mother is not a sociopath like a few others I can think of...but she had done some good during her time (my impression was that the charism, except for the magical thinking, was good, but what upset me was that they lived in luxury, and I have worked with too many poor people to approve of rich religious, be they new age nuns, charismatic types or old fashioned ones).
When you get a "word of wisdom" from on high, if someone questions you, then they assume you are evil for rejecting God. But the word of wisdom often comes from our subconscious.
True, God can talk to us "in the silence of the heart", but so can the devil, and so can our own imagination. That is why one of the first lessons of spirituality is to have an outsider to discern what is going on.
Ironically, the outsider doesn't have to be a priest, and doesn't have to be anyone who is a mystic: Indeed, the best one is often someone with psychological training and a common sense background who is a bit sceptical of mysticism.
That is why Mother Nadine got into trouble: No one there discerned or questioned her, and it grew and grew. And when the bishop stepped in, she balked, because she was used to assuming what she thought was what the Lord wanted.
The website says they still give retreats, but no new information. and someone is updating the "daily messages" from Mother Nadine's old books.
But no hard information (like who is paying the bills, how many still live on campus, etc),
This community seems to have links with Mother Nadine. and has set up a radio station in West Virginia. They seem to have connections with the Catholic charismatic community, but I'll have to check their site and get back to you.
and so far, no information about their group here in the Philippines.
Hmmm...
If I were them, I'd change the name: too protestant. But that's just me. And their dress changed to powder blue, which is an improvement.
Hopefully they have gotten rid of the cult like tendencies of the IOTL and will become a new contemplative group so badly needed in the US.
The website also has prayers and daily bible reading which could be helpful this Advent season.
------------------------
Wikipedia reports they started the new order in February.
the local newspaper's article on them is found HERE.
nine of the 48 who have left have started the new order...others left to become lay people, and a few stayed with Mother Nadine.
I have no idea what happened to Mother Nadine: She joined a Protestant intercessory prayer group called IHOP (no not the pancake house). And the last article I saw in the news about IHOP was a juicy murder case, but then it's a pretty large organization and may have attracted a few nut cases.
The IOTL website is still up and selling tapes for Christmas. Actually, the spiritual formation tapes from past converences are probably valuable if you want to learn about holiness, but I can't vouch for the latest ones.
The last conference noted on the website was advent (i.e. late fall) in 2011, so no new information there.
Mother Nadine is a bit sugary sweet for my taste. She tends, like many Charismatics, toward magical thinking, but unlike a lot of modern preachers stresses holiness, and not the idea that if God loves you, you will become rich.
Holy spirit interactive has an essay which is an example of her sugary writing style.
Her disobedience distresses me, and makes me suspect she is passive/aggressive (think "church lady from Saturday night live")...
The charismatic types often get into trouble because of the magical thinking stuff makes them think they are bigshots, but Mother is not a sociopath like a few others I can think of...but she had done some good during her time (my impression was that the charism, except for the magical thinking, was good, but what upset me was that they lived in luxury, and I have worked with too many poor people to approve of rich religious, be they new age nuns, charismatic types or old fashioned ones).
When you get a "word of wisdom" from on high, if someone questions you, then they assume you are evil for rejecting God. But the word of wisdom often comes from our subconscious.
True, God can talk to us "in the silence of the heart", but so can the devil, and so can our own imagination. That is why one of the first lessons of spirituality is to have an outsider to discern what is going on.
Ironically, the outsider doesn't have to be a priest, and doesn't have to be anyone who is a mystic: Indeed, the best one is often someone with psychological training and a common sense background who is a bit sceptical of mysticism.
That is why Mother Nadine got into trouble: No one there discerned or questioned her, and it grew and grew. And when the bishop stepped in, she balked, because she was used to assuming what she thought was what the Lord wanted.
The website says they still give retreats, but no new information. and someone is updating the "daily messages" from Mother Nadine's old books.
But no hard information (like who is paying the bills, how many still live on campus, etc),
This community seems to have links with Mother Nadine. and has set up a radio station in West Virginia. They seem to have connections with the Catholic charismatic community, but I'll have to check their site and get back to you.
and so far, no information about their group here in the Philippines.
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