follow the anglicans to hell

Virtue on line discusses the Anglican church's doctrinal problems: In this item it discusses how ordaining women was more about entrenching gender theory/radical feminism than about serving God.
Although the process of decay began with the ordination of women to the priesthood (a move that Lorna along with the many other orthodox women on Synod have long been opposed to), the implications of ignoring the Biblical teaching on gender remained hidden to most Anglicans.
Feminism rather than the New Testament has formed the mind-set of most. But with gay marriage the implications of the challenge posed by secular values to the New Testament are much harder to hide.

read the whole thing, which like a lot of stuff is subtle.

a "headsup" for Catholics

But be warned: First came divorce, plus making the holy Eucharist a "feel good" symbol, but next comes "married priests" (the fake synod with this already in place to do this). And "decentralizing" the church while appointing "reformer" type bishops translates to making an anti church with trendier than thou doctrines.

What could go wrong?

Of course, they could compromise by copying the Eastern Catholic rites, which like the Orthodox church, allows married men to become priests...

but I suspect this is about reforming the church

By the way: there is a new film out there about a priest who "helps" a young woman over her crisis in faith and ends up leaving the church for her. The reviewers said it mirrored what they saw happen.

But my take: I saw her deliberately seducing her fantasy man from a Harlequin romance: we see a lot of this type of nonsense quite a lot with women going after (usually married) doctors.

and after the marriage, the fantasy falls apart...

behond the power of reality

the Pope's ideas are to go out and reach the infidel by not hurting their feelings.

The ""make a mess" idea is more correctly described in the modern sociological idea of "Liquid modernity":

“Liquid modernity” represents a change from what Bauman called “solid modernity.” Bauman wrote that the “liquid” modern man values individualism over social ties. He “flows through his own life like a tourist, changing places, jobs, spouses, values and even sexual orientation and gender.”

what is wrong with this?

well, as a scientist I would suggest it is saying forget the lessons of thousands of years of human experience (or maybe even the advice of the Lord) and just make your own reality.

what could go wrong?

but my real objection is anthropoligical: This is cultural: It describes the elite culture of the west, but not the culture of non western European societies, and the dirty little secret is that the majority of Christians live in Africa and Asia, where you see yourself not as an isolated individual, but as part of a family and community, with ties of love and obligation to others.

Destablizing the family in the US means freedom for the promiscuous (and financial problems for the innocent spouse, and emotional problems for the kids) but in the third world, it mean a woman who can not support herself because the man has left, so often she takes another common law spouse, and her older kids end up on the street because he doesn't want them.

of course, the "excuse" here is that the poor in third world cities often have common law marriages, so the Pope's minions insist that they are reaching out to them.

But I wonder if they noticed that when Evanglicals reach out, they first insist on following the rules, something that makes the wives happier and the family more stable.

The grace of Christ helps you to follow the rules, of course, and one reason for the explosion of Pentecostal Christianity is that the Pentecostal high helps people to recognize God exists on an emotional level.

Another sociological explanation is that the Evangelicals let the church replace the extended family for those moving into the city far from their rural home. In rural areas, the family and neighbors pressure you into doing the right thing: In the slums, family ties are lost. You are "lost in the cosmos", to use a phrase of Walker Percy about modern man. But in poor countries, this doesn't just mean philosophical loneliness but getting lost in a culture of drugs and instablity.

But the fellowship of the small evangelical churches replace this need for a small community or family: They welcome you, they help you get a job, they encourage you to follow the rules and not take drugs or steal or cheat on your wife.

True, the Jesuits in South America are pushing the idea of a base community, but that is not quite the same thing: That is a community that is not about family and God but about a club of SJW working for social justice. Uh, what if you are too busy to join their outreach because you have a family and a life to live?

Catholics traditionally have large parishes but fill this gap with small groups (prayer groups including those held in homes by lay people, Knights of Columbus, Sodalities etc) or at least used to emphasize these groups before Vatican II. Do they still have them? we did in Oklahoma (of course, the new bishop probably is dismatling them but never mind). And in Pennsylvania, I attended a prayer group at the Orthodox church, since the Catholics running the diocese were busy looking the other way at the scandals there, and the good priests were demoralized.

The problem with Francis keeps talking about going along with sinners to accompany them in their walk to God is that a lot of folks take the easy way out.

"who am I to judge" means if you are rich, you can schtupp the help because God made you that way, and the help "agrees" to go along so it's okay (and don't forget; if the spouse objects, well she is rigid and judgmental. Yup. we had a party upstairs again last night.)

Sigh.

Ironically, those theologians who dare to point out the theological errors in the "footnote" are either told the are wrong to say that damn footnote means adultery and communion for all is okay because it can be interpreted through the eyes of tradition...(never mind that several diocese have done the opposite. But you aren't supposed to notice).

But the few who dare to point out the problem find they are being silenced, not on theological grounds but because they are harming the unity of the church, so shut up.